beautiful Days pictures

[Ugly Goblin Boy]

You know what makes me happy? The last 3 pages of this thread.

Do you know why? Because it means PWEI is back in peoples heads.

[Mr.Cruise]

I've just got back from Sheffield after seeing them at the Leadmill, and they were really, really good. Really good. I spent quite a bit of time with Gra in the bar before, (get me, I'm so ace etc) and he was saying that he has been in touch with the other original members of the band. Adam is going to a couple of gigs I think (Oxford maybe?) and also Sal was there - the original sound engineer who did ten years on active patrol with Pop Will Eat Itself. Gra was chatting about how much CJ was excited and involved in the band again, and also said when he was in L.A (baby) a few months ago he went out with Clint.
Throughout the gig Mary and Gra called it Pop Will Eat Itself 2!
I thought, up until about 8.55pm last night that Pop Will Eat Itself was all about Clint and Graham and Rich and Adam, and later Fuzz. It surprised me an awful lot to find out that I was completely wrong. The minute that man who isn't Jimmy Swaggart started going on about Music is a gift from God, and Mary and Gra started jumping around on stage, it wasn't anything to do with that. It was everything to do with the "music". This surprised me a lot.
Pop WIll Eat Itself never ever did what you thought they would do. Just when you thought that you got them, and understood the samples of Adam Ant, or the twilight Zone, they did something different.
I used to see them most weekends in the Swan and the Mitre, in Stourbridge, and they were the most influential, important and ace band in my life. I was so worried. Everything could have gone wrong with that legacy this evening. Instead, I shouldn't have worried. For Pop Will Eat Itself were just like they always are - funny, edgy, and I think sounding better than ever. Don't worry, they are still way, way cooler than anyone else around at the moment, just like they always were. This isn't a tribute act, or a novelty thing, which was my biggest worry. No. The Poppies are still reassuringly crap. Which is great news.

[c3tra]

[wierdsbarandgrill2]

"hey there weirdsbarandgrill2 are you in fact......................
nomorefakereunions .....with a shiny new name to backup your crap and vapid arguments?"

No. I'm not. I'm in fact the same as "wierdsbarandgrill", but I lost the password to that and was having trouble logging into the relevant account to retreive it.

"crap and vapid"? I understand if you don't agree with me. My opinions are both logical, supportable by reasoning and facts. If new facts become clear, then i change my opinion. simple.

The fact that I seem to agree with one other poster here doesn't make me either imaginary, fictional, or a sock puppet.

The fact that I don't think this current incarnation of PWEI has been handled in the public eye well, or with clarity, or with openess, is both fair and reasonable.

The fact that I actually have the balls to criticise the band for their actions rather than uncritically, slavishly writing "isn't it great they're playing again! WOW!" etc. means what exactly? that with the PWEI band name comes certain (not unreasonable) expectations, and the way that has been handled falls way short.

For me "vapid" means someone whose opinions are slavish, uncritical, and unthinking,. X-Factor is that way > > > > > "crap"? Not at all. logical, rational, reasonable, and with some sort of level of expectation given the fact Ive bene following this band for 20 years, seen them over 15 times.

And in short, after about three months of asking for "what the hell do Fuzz, Adam and Richard feel about this?" we find out. Why the hell does it take so long? Why wasnt this made clear in the first place? Is that unreasonable? Or are you content to have the name PWEI slapped over any old band and just lap it, uncritically? Because I'm not that.

Everytime a band comes out, they have to prove themselves again. Not just to joe public, but to the people who they, as musicians, depend on to keep themfed. The people that buy the records, the gig tickets, the people who actually give a shite.Without your fans, you are nothing. Treat the fans like rubbish and with contempt, and then watch your fan base fritter away quicker than you can say "big mac, fries to go?" as a career decision, rather than a lyric.

My opinion is as valid as anyone elses'. I don't lavish fanboy praise on a band simply because of the name. that WOULD be vapid.

I could be considered opinionated. But thats because I actually do give a damn.

[wierdsbarandgrill2]

[c3tra]

[Stubborn Puppet]

I have an important question:
"What the heck does any of this have to do with the photos from "Beautiful Days"?"

I'm as big a poppies fan as anyone I've ever met and I still don't care about these entertainment industry politics... and I doubt that any of the old or new band members really do either. It's art, it's entertainment, it's for enjoyment. I imagine (from a musicians standpoint) that the current members of PWEI have two distinct motives for this project: 1) Make and perform music. 2) Make a living at the only job they've ever loved.

! Long live Pop Will Eat Itself !

[c3tra]

[VMNP]

Well it just means that there's two trolls lurking under the bridge, time this thread was locked!

(I don't think i'm able to do it myself)

[VMNP]

Oh hang on i think i can.