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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby Soxan_Pance » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:49 am

A PWEI kids top would be superb.

No poop no style??!
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby Onket » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:43 am

Payback must own the rights to the artwork, because he did it!
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby payback3000 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:06 am

I think CR own it now.

Dunno.

It's complicated - most of it's just the 'right' fonts...but do tDR own the amalgamation font? Do the band own the PWEI logo in that font?

Best bet is to offer to create stuff for the band and them sell it. I have offered, and offered up all the classic PWEI stuff I've redrawn to the band but I've heard Firebrand are somehow in control of what gets made...hence some of the 'off brand' stuff like the PWEI logo ABOVE the robot head which is awful and 'off brand' in evil speek.
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby Mad Bastard » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:06 pm

Here to sing, by request, here we bring...
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby negative8ball » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:42 pm

Without this turning into a discussion of creative copyrights (there are a few designers/artists here - so I'm sure we all have our own experiences)...

Copyright for a created work is retained by the artist - unless done as work for hire under the direction of a client. Work I do while on shift at my day-job is owned by that company - what they do with it is their choice. When I was doing agency work, we would create things for clients - and it would vary contract-to-contract.

It's hard to say with a font - if they built the font because they thought it would look good, and then used it, they could continue using it (and licensing it) - if your logo is in Helvetica, you never own the font - but you own a treatment of the type as a logo (how it's been tweaked, kerned etc in special ways to look good AS a logo). It's a murky area, as implied by others.

I agree - new PWEI merch made here - not ideal. My comment about the skull/gas-mask was more a "Cherry-Red-directed" point LOL - would love them to produce something like that... but, yeah, with an active PWEI - I think we leave the creation of new merch to them. It's "their" brand (Graham's I assume) and they'll do what they see as best for their identity... and shirts for an album the current incarnation had nothing to do with are probably not high on anyone's list.
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

Postby negative8ball » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:43 pm

(And I should note - there's an entirely secondary murky area here when it comes to illustration - drawings (originals) can be owned by the artist, but publication rights can sit with a client... so there are weird grey areas all over the place in this realm...)
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Re: PWEInation limited fan merch

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